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RFC - The Scope of this Wiki

What is the scope of Puzzles Wiki?

Please express an opinion on these options below! A bolded Support, Oppose, or Neutral should be appended before writing further reasoning or discussion.

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Soni (talk) 03:31, 8 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Option 1 : Hunt Puzzles and similar only

This option limit our primary scope to Puzzle Hunts and Hunt puzzles. Some future delineation may be required to decide where exactly this line falls, but by and large, the primary scope of the wiki would be Hunt Puzzles.

  • Support, but with deliberately wide definition of 'Hunt' - I think having limited scope is preferred for getting focused content drafted and added to the wiki. And I think the fundamental thing that makes "Hunts" interesting to this community is essentially "anything with meta puzzle(s)". Most Escape Rooms, Rally-yes, Treasure Hunts, etc are differentiated in that they are just sequential unlocks and essentially just a race to completion without a meta puzzle. However, I do also believe that there is probably scope for notable stand-alone puzzles if they have a "mini-hunt" like progression within themselves. - CoreyPlover (talk) 04:00, 8 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support - I think, especially in the wiki's youth, that having a focused subject matter and working to flesh out that content is more important than being inclusive of all puzzle types. I believe we should aim to make this wiki the de-facto place for puzzlehunt information, and once that goal is realized, broadening the scope of the wiki. Mononoko (talk) 03:55, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Support (With Exceptions) - While I think the primary purpose of this wiki is to collect hunt puzzles/solutions/elements, there definitely should be room for information about puzzlehunt-adjacent topics. However, since we 1) Can't do detailed info on Escape Rooms without attending, nor should we (This falls under the same "No Details" rule as Puzzle Boat/P&A), and 2) Have better resources at hand for detailing ARGs (like Game Detectives Wiki), I don't see a point to handling these other puzzle-y things in the same way that we handle hunt puzzles. I think there is definitely merit to having pages dedicated to these things, but as broader concepts. Escape rooms should still have a page, due to there being multiple puzzle hunts with puzzles that are presented as Escape Rooms, with links to other resources that better deal with the IRL aspect of them. ARGs could be listed, but due to their variability in puzzle content probably shouldn't have the same kind of attention as hunts do. Treasure Hunts...well, those are variable. Some treasure hunts are actually puzzle hunts, and those should be case-by case. Rallyes also have some outside resources that we'd be better off pointing towards, but having a page on Rallyes is still important, due to the presence of (once again), at least one Hunt Puzzles that is also a Rallye. In my opinion, we're a wiki that does two things: 1) Collects information about Puzzle Hunts and their puzzles, and 2) Acts as a resource to teach people about puzzling as a whole, which often overlaps with these adjacencies. Leveloneknob (talk) 04:03, 8 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Option 2 : Inclusion of Escape Rooms

Hunt puzzles, plus Escape Rooms and similar.

Option 3 : Inclusion of Rally-yes

Hunt puzzles, plus Rally-yes and similar.

Option 4 : Treasure Hunts and ARGs

Hunt puzzles, plus also Treasure Hunts, Alternate Reality Games, and similar.

Option 5 : Logic Puzzles

Hunt puzzles, plus other logic puzzles of all types, including Logic Puzzle "hunts" like WPF and Sudoku Mahabharat.

Option 6 : Word Puzzles

Hunt puzzles, plus other word puzzles of all types.

Option 7 : Stand-alone puzzles

Hunt puzzles, plus other standalone puzzles of all types.

Option 8 : All of the Above

  • Support, with caveats (and also deprioritize until later) I think ultimately, this is probably the option that creates the least questions of "what is a X puzzle?". But for that matter, I would say that the individual notability criteria for the different types of puzzles has a fairly wide range. For instance, we can catalog as many individual hunt puzzles as we can, but maybe for treasure hunts/rallyes/ARG's, it might make sense to only have pages for the top-level franchise, or second-level "hunt"-equivalent (i.e. not one page per clue). Escape rooms could be per company, I suppose, since we probably couldn't get much sourced material for each room. There are also other types of less-hunty puzzles (e.g. logic puzzles could be per genres, plus it could be integrated with "hunt puzzles that use a certain genre" elements. Puzzle games (most likely at a game-level page, not a page per level), mechanical puzzles, jigsaw puzzles, I guess should be evaluated on notability.)--phenomist (talk) 03:40, 8 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]